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Post by admin on Dec 28, 2020 9:12:19 GMT -5
Pretty disgusting on what they did at the end of 89 cutting those beautiful trees down question for you did they ever put the dock in in the summertime?
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Post by tiredold on Dec 28, 2020 11:07:25 GMT -5
We were told the trees were removed for insurance reasons. They were beautiful, but overgrown and considered a risk for falling. I heard that they are seeking wood carving artists to create some kind of creation out of the remaining "stumps". The dock was put in and once again proved to be very popular. Its was used not just for launching boats, but as a gathering spot for people to enjoy the lake. So much so, they the town had their orange vested "greeters" there on every weekend to ensure that only residents could use the ramp and dock.(and not to have more than five "residents" at a time on the dock). They said it was part of Covid countermeasures. (same at Alcona). I will not discuss how effective this actions were, but at least they were trying something. It raised a curious question. I keep my boat at Kon Tiki marina. I asked one of the managers of the "greeter" crew, that since I have been at the marine from before he was born, and pay marina fees (part of which is used to pay the marina's property taxes), I live on the boat during the summer, and Ministry of Transportation considers that a boat with a sink, toilet attached to the boat, and two dock or anchor lines is considered a residence (which is why you can consume alcohol while docked in the marina) and I have a card pass to the security gate, am I considered a resident? After all, if I had a mobile home year round in a trailer park, I believe I would be considered a resident. He said it was a very good question and would ask the town, but I was never given an answer. I asked if he had a personal boaters license, he said yes and recalled that my description of a boat becoming an residence was something he certainly recalled from the test (as did I ). Anyway, thanks for the report. I love looking at the lake when I am not there, whether it is frozen or not. Be smart, be safe.
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Post by peter on Dec 28, 2020 11:28:24 GMT -5
Common theme, remove the trees for liability reasons, hogwash if you ask me. Mixing recreational sunbathers and boaters on a boat launch doesn't really work don't you think seems that would be more liability than the trees, I think the right move for the town would have been a floating dock 50 ft out from the end of Gilford road
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Post by sledhead on Dec 29, 2020 6:28:55 GMT -5
First I've heard that the dock end of 89 was for residents only.
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Post by chachi1984 on Dec 29, 2020 6:36:12 GMT -5
Maybe the way the dock was pit in made the trees an insurance liability? It’s hard for people to comment if we weren’t actually there at the time. I didn’t make it there this summer so the last time I went there anyone could use the launch
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Post by tiredold on Dec 29, 2020 10:25:05 GMT -5
During the weekends there would be two younger (18 to 25) city employees sitting on chairs under one of those collapsible awning tents. They would arrive around 7 am and stay until dark. Often their boss in a red pick up truck (and Inisfil logo on the door) would be there as well. Anyone pulling up with a boat would have to show some piece of identification with a local address. If not, they were turned away. Usually they went to one of the near by marina's with ramps. Some marina's had signs right there advertising their services. If there was a Covid threat, (which I firmly believe is true) it was just shifted to another location. For the vast majority, people complied without argument. At the Alcona end, the plaza owner nearest to the park, would have police patrol the lot to prevent people from parking there and trying to walk into the park, as it was closed to non residents as well. The doc is a floating one and had no impact on the trees. It is stored right there on the Kon Tiki side of the fence. Before Covid, it became a very very popular gathering place for the locals (mostly older) to socialize. The dock is also handicap accessible, providing a chance for wheelchair and scooter patrons a chance to sit out into the lake and some even fished. It is a good thing (in my humble opinion).
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Post by peter on Dec 29, 2020 13:30:21 GMT -5
Are you saying staff are making sure that your local in order to use that boat launch?
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Post by peter on Dec 29, 2020 13:47:09 GMT -5
Really with that kind of thinking, it would mean they're going to do the same thing for ice fishing season, I hope that's not the case but based on my relationship with the town of Innisfil, you never know, do you think they would staff every entrance in Innisfil to stop people from going ice fishing that would be ludicrous
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Post by tiredold on Dec 29, 2020 14:46:02 GMT -5
I thought that for an instant, but really really doubt it. They appeared to not want non locals from congregating on the dock and by the water/road. They were not there during the weekdays. They did "suggest" non local use marina ramps. With launching or removing a boat, you are clustered with everyone waiting to undo, prep, float off, etc. the boats all in one place, at the waterline/road. With ice fishing you basically just go out onto the ice once you get everything ready at your car. They already deter enough non residents with the ridiculous parking lot rate. (from what I am told, it is almost twice the parking rate than at the ACC to see a Leaf game, when they had them).
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Post by chachi1984 on Dec 29, 2020 16:10:12 GMT -5
Really with that kind of thinking, it would mean they're going to do the same thing for ice fishing season, I hope that's not the case but based on my relationship with the town of Innisfil, you never know, do you think they would staff every entrance in Innisfil to stop people from going ice fishing that would be ludicrous The bylaw could turn out of town away
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Post by peter on Dec 29, 2020 23:28:12 GMT -5
Civil disobedience is in order, go ice fishing, anyone stops you and ask you where you're from, go tell them to take a hike, the idea is not to divulge any information it's nobody's business who you are, but first the ice must be safe .
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Post by sledhead on Dec 30, 2020 5:09:44 GMT -5
During the weekends there would be two younger (18 to 25) city employees sitting on chairs under one of those collapsible awning tents. They would arrive around 7 am and stay until dark. Often their boss in a red pick up truck (and Inisfil logo on the door) would be there as well. Anyone pulling up with a boat would have to show some piece of identification with a local address. If not, they were turned away. Usually they went to one of the near by marina's with ramps. Some marina's had signs right there advertising their services. If there was a Covid threat, (which I firmly believe is true) it was just shifted to another location. For the vast majority, people complied without argument. At the Alcona end, the plaza owner nearest to the park, would have police patrol the lot to prevent people from parking there and trying to walk into the park, as it was closed to non residents as well. The doc is a floating one and had no impact on the trees. It is stored right there on the Kon Tiki side of the fence. Before Covid, it became a very very popular gathering place for the locals (mostly older) to socialize. The dock is also handicap accessible, providing a chance for wheelchair and scooter patrons a chance to sit out into the lake and some even fished. It is a good thing (in my humble opinion). So you're saying that the residents only rule was because of covid?
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Post by robg on Jan 2, 2021 23:26:27 GMT -5
First I've heard that the dock end of 89 was for residents only. This happened in 2020 as part of the town's attempt to prevent non locals from other health units coming up to Innisfil. You had to be a resident, and make an appointment to use any of the public launches (IBP and 89)
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Post by peter on Jan 3, 2021 18:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by peter on Jan 10, 2021 4:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by fishing on Jan 10, 2021 8:55:22 GMT -5
thanks for the post, great.
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Post by peter on Jan 11, 2021 7:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by peter on Jan 15, 2021 7:00:39 GMT -5
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